it is not surprising that the obama administration did not submit -- respond, but you have to look beyond -- that is a minor blip. they were defeated in a rock in afghanistan. the american people don't seem to perceive that. the muslim world sees it very clearly. been both superpowers, and that is the issue we are facing. a movement that is not -- if we are l done facing it in mali, algeria, somalia, pakistan, looking at it as kind of separate issues, t is all one movement, all sol -- self perpetuating, and it is all motivated by our intervention. the french have united a very disparate group of islamist organizations and molly by intervening there. lou: and as michael is it out, the united states debated, as he characterized, and by the way, i am not sure that the national media even confronts that certain reality that the united states has lost. those are not words that trip easily off the american time. >> no, but these are the consistent notions, perceptions. absolutely. if you listen to them, read their statements, including the few weeks ago, you pretty much convinced that we have b